{"id":1368035,"date":"2026-05-13T11:11:00","date_gmt":"2026-05-13T08:11:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uatv.ua\/?p=1368035"},"modified":"2026-05-13T10:23:18","modified_gmt":"2026-05-13T07:23:18","slug":"why-the-west-is-secretly-terrified-of-russia-s-total-collapse-interview-with-jonathan-fink","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uatv.ua\/en\/why-the-west-is-secretly-terrified-of-russia-s-total-collapse-interview-with-jonathan-fink\/","title":{"rendered":"Why The West is Secretly Terrified of Russia’s Total Collapse, \u2014 Interview with Jonathan Fink"},"content":{"rendered":"

Vladimir Putin’s regime is trapped by its own war. In an interview,<\/a> geopolitical analyst Jonathan Fink<\/strong> states: the Russian system has turned into a “military pyramid,” where stopping combat operations could trigger economic and political collapse of the Kremlin. <\/p>\n

Meanwhile, Ukraine is transitioning from a country dependent on Western aid to one of the main technological centers of modern warfare. Ukrainian drones and combat experience are already changing global security rules. Why does the West fear Russia’s disintegration and how is Ukraine becoming a new “rule maker”? Let’s break it down!<\/p>\n

\u2014 Russia always chooses war\u2014even in times that seem peaceful. It could simply declare victory, claim all goals of the so-called \u201cspecial military operation\u201d have been achieved, and stop. Everyone would know it is not true, but the opportunity exists. Why is that window not used? Is it weakness?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 It is certainly a weakness. But it is not just about Vladimir Putin as an individual. His regime is now structurally dependent on war.<\/p>\n

The information system\u2014figures like Solovyov and the so-called \u201cZ-patriots\u201d\u2014relies on war as a source of content and revenue. They are monetizing the war. These groups may represent only a minority of the population, but they are ideologically committed to continuing it.<\/p>\n

Putin has built part of his power base on them, yet he does not fully control them and may even fear them turning against him. Internal repression, including internet shutdowns, is not only about external threats like drones but also about controlling domestic instability.<\/p>\n

At the same time, the economy has been reshaped into what can be described as a military \u201cPonzi scheme.\u201d If the war ends, serious economic consequences follow. Morality does not factor into this\u2014it is pure political calculation. Putin has effectively trapped himself. For him, peace is not an exit\u2014it is political death.<\/p>\n

\u2014 What should the West do in response to this strategic deadlock?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Western policy has long been guided by the idea of preventing the collapse of Russia. This has been consistent across administrations\u2014from George H. W. Bush to Joe Biden and even under Donald Trump.<\/p>\n

There is a deep-rooted concern in Western political and military thinking that a catastrophic collapse of Russia must be avoided. However, this often conflates Russia as a state with Russia as an imperial system.<\/p>\n

From a Ukrainian perspective, many argue that long-term security requires the decentralization or fragmentation of that imperial system. Otherwise, Russia will continue to pose a threat across generations.<\/p>\n

The key issue is control over resources. Historically, Russia has repeatedly approached collapse but reasserted control by regaining access to resources. If it maintains control over energy revenues and security structures, it can continue indefinitely.<\/p>\n

\u2014 But Ukraine is changing the situation\u2014drone deals, innovation, new partnerships. Do ordinary Western citizens recognize this shift from Ukraine being a recipient of aid to becoming a strategic partner?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Not really. Most people are not aware of these developments or their significance. Even in countries strongly supportive of Ukraine, there is limited understanding of how fundamentally the situation has changed.<\/p>\n

People may recognize that Ukraine has survived and that Russia is struggling, but they do not grasp the scale of the transformation.<\/p>\n

Ukraine should not focus on trying to communicate this shift. It should continue doing what is necessary. Importantly, it is no longer in a position where it must accept every external condition. It now has leverage\u2014it can reject offers that come with unacceptable constraints.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u2014 So Ukraine itself has effectively become a security guarantee?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Yes. The only real security guarantee preventing Russian forces from advancing further into Europe is Ukraine itself\u2014Ukrainian resistance, Ukrainian innovation, and Ukrainian sacrifice.<\/p>\n

That may sound dramatic, but those who understand the dynamics of Russian imperial policy recognize that it is not an exaggeration. If Ukraine were to stop fighting, Russia could redirect its focus elsewhere.<\/p>\n

For example, Russia is already expanding its drone capabilities significantly, including large-scale specialized units. The threat has not diminished.<\/p>\n

\u2014 Do you believe Russia could attack the Baltic states?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 It is absolutely capable of doing so. The real question is whether it would consider it strategically worthwhile.<\/p>\n

The invasion of Ukraine was not strategically sound either, but it was based on the belief that Russia could succeed quickly. That same logic could apply elsewhere.<\/p>\n

Russian decision-making often revolves around whether it believes it can act without facing overwhelming consequences. The objectives would include weakening NATO, undermining the European Union, and fragmenting Europe into smaller, more compliant states.<\/p>\n

However, an attack on the Baltic states would likely provoke a much stronger response. Russia is less effective in conventional warfare than expected, but it remains highly capable in hybrid strategies\u2014information warfare, psychological pressure, and destabilization campaigns.<\/p>\n

So while a direct attack is possible, it may not achieve the outcomes Russia seeks.<\/p>\n

\u2014 They are investing billions into information warfare, yet some say they are still not winning it. Ukraine even managed to turn something like the Red Square parade into a symbolic moment. Is that the advantage of having a comedian as president?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Yes, that contrast is often noted. Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who came from comedy, has risen to the presidency, while Vladimir Putin appears to be moving in the opposite direction\u2014from a position of authority toward something increasingly perceived as weak or even absurd.<\/p>\n

This perception is not only present in the West but is beginning to emerge within Russia\u2019s own power structure. In any system, when a leader appears weak or incapable of protecting elite interests, there is pressure for replacement. The difference is that in Russia, there are no formal rules for such transitions\u2014only the logic of power and the emergence of another \u201cstrongman.\u201d<\/p>\n

Zelenskyy has recognized this moment and turned it into a powerful communication strategy, using satire to expose that weakness.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u2014 So this is a turning point?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Yes, but it is also a dangerous one. As long as Putin remains in power, the risk is not only conventional military action but also large-scale hybrid operations\u2014cyberattacks, sabotage, political interference, and psychological warfare across Europe.<\/p>\n

If Putin is replaced, the risk does not necessarily disappear. Instead of a hardline nationalist, there could be a seemingly moderate or \u201cliberal\u201d figure\u2014such as Ksenia Sobchak\u2014who appears acceptable to the West but still operates within the same system.<\/p>\n

There is a risk that Western countries might misinterpret such a change as genuine transformation, believing that Russia has fundamentally changed, when in reality the underlying system remains intact.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u2014 So you are saying that what we see now is the \u201creal\u201d Russia?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Yes. Periods of openness or reform are the exception, not the norm. The current model\u2014centralized power, militarism, and control\u2014is the default state.<\/p>\n

What often appears as liberalization has historically been temporary, used to rebuild strength before returning to a more authoritarian structure.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u2014 Let\u2019s talk about Ukraine. There are corruption scandals. How is this perceived in the West?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Corruption exists everywhere. But it is important to distinguish between different types. Financial corruption\u2014illegal enrichment\u2014is damaging, but often limited in systemic impact.<\/p>\n

More dangerous is nepotism. When unqualified individuals are promoted into positions of power, they replicate incompetence throughout the system. That leads to institutional decay.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Ukraine faces both challenges, but what matters is whether the system is dynamic\u2014whether bad actors are removed and replaced. My impression is that Ukraine is functioning as a dynamic system that can correct itself over time.<\/p>\n

\u2014 Do people in the West understand this nuance?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Not really. Most people do not think about these issues in depth. There is sometimes concern about whether aid is being used effectively.<\/p>\n

My view is that individuals should take responsibility\u2014support organizations they trust and verify their effectiveness. Increasingly, Ukraine is also focusing not just on whether institutions are well-run, but whether they deliver results. That is a very important shift.<\/p>\n

\u2014 So Ukraine is no longer just dependent on Western support?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 That is correct. Ukraine has moved from being primarily a recipient of aid to becoming a strategic actor. It still needs resources, especially for a decisive military outcome, but it is no longer in a position of dependency.<\/p>\n

The likely outcome of the war is not purely military victory but pressure leading to internal collapse or breakdown within Russia. Ukraine\u2019s role is to sustain that pressure.<\/p>\n

\u2014 So Ukraine is becoming a rule-maker rather than a rule-taker?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Exactly. Ukraine now has the ability to shape its own path. It no longer needs to accept every external condition tied to integration into institutions like European Union or NATO.<\/p>\n

This is a major shift, though it is not yet widely recognized\u2014even within Ukraine. There is still a certain humility, but over time, success will likely translate into greater confidence and institutional transformation.<\/p>\n

\u2014 Will that shift become fully visible?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014 Yes, especially if key objectives are achieved, such as restoring territorial integrity. That would create a strong sense of confidence and enable broader societal and institutional transformation.<\/p>\n

Ukraine has developed qualities that are valuable beyond the battlefield\u2014innovation, adaptability, and a willingness to challenge authority. These are traits that many Western societies need to relearn.<\/p>\n

In a sense, Ukraine is not only defending itself but also helping to \u201cimmunize\u201d the West against the influence of authoritarian systems.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ID1Fjcy_t-E\n<\/div><\/figure>\n

Read also:<\/strong> China\u2019s Technology Supply Corridor to Russia Has Reached 90 Percent and Is Calling into Question the Effectiveness of the European Sanctions Regime<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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