{"id":1319086,"date":"2026-03-03T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-03-03T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uatv.ua\/?p=1319086"},"modified":"2026-03-03T00:30:01","modified_gmt":"2026-03-02T22:30:01","slug":"russia-cannot-fight-forever-interview-with-ben-hodges","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uatv.ua\/en\/russia-cannot-fight-forever-interview-with-ben-hodges\/","title":{"rendered":"Russia cannot fight forever, &#8211; Interview with Ben Hodges"},"content":{"rendered":" <p>Are Russia&#8217;s resources truly limitless? In a new <a href=\"https:\/\/uatv.ua\/en\/\">UATV<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=WzA7sJLA4zk\">interview<\/a>, retired US Army officer <strong>Ben Hodges <\/strong>analyzes the current frontline situation and answers the toughest questions: when Moscow will start looking for a way out of the war and what real indicators show readiness for negotiations. <\/p>\n   <p>The main focus of the conversation is Ukraine&#8217;s path to victory, which lies in destroying Russia\u2019s ability to export energy resources. We also discussed why the Middle East war demonstrates Russia&#8217;s weakness, and whether the Kremlin will dare direct invasion of the Baltic states.<\/p>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 Every year we hear the same question over and over again: will this year be the last? And in one of your recent interviews, you said that Russia is not interested in ending the war soon. What concrete battlefield or political indicators should our viewers anticipate to know when Moscow is actually ready to negotiate?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 I think that the Kremlin will continue doing this as long as they think they have a chance to win, which means that Ukraine collapses or that support for Ukraine in Europe collapses. As long as they believe that outside pressure will force Ukraine to take a bad deal, I think they will continue.<\/p>\n   <p>So the thing I would be looking for is indicators that the Europeans, for example, are going to continue to support Ukraine. Unfortunately, I don\u2019t think my own country under the current administration is going to do much to help, which I think is a terrible mistake on our part. But that\u2019s how I see it.<\/p>\n   <p>In fact, I\u2019m sure the Russians do not have the ability to overwhelm or break through Ukrainian defenses. So the situation on the ground today will look a lot like this a year from now, because Ukraine also does not have the ability by itself to push Russia out.<\/p>\n   <p>I imagine that the Russians will continue their attacks on Ukrainian civilian targets and infrastructure, unless and until Ukraine is able to make that infeasible for them by increasing air defense capabilities and also destroying the places and the factories from which those Russian attacks are happening.<\/p>\n   <p>And then finally, I do think that Ukraine has identified a path to victory, which is the destruction of Russia\u2019s ability to export oil and gas. So, in addition to knocking out their refineries, seeing \u2014 with help from the Europeans \u2014 the stopping of shadow fleet vessels from taking oil out through the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea, those would be very positive indicators.<\/p>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 Do you think that Russians currently heavily rely on external pressure on Ukraine?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 Well, they assume that the US president is going to keep doing that. I mean, it\u2019s been difficult for me to watch, and I\u2019m sure it must be agonizing for Ukrainians to see this: that an American president has, by and large, taken the Russian perspective and approach on all of this.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Even though most of Congress and most of America supports Ukraine, that could change. But I don\u2019t see any indicators right now that it\u2019s going to change \u2014 that the US is going to change its approach.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 Russian forces are reportedly losing thousands of troops per mile in some sectors in Ukraine. Does that signal strategic failure, or does it actually show that Russia can sustain attritional warfare longer than the West expected?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 There is a theory about attrition warfare that says the Russians can do this forever because they have such a big country and they don\u2019t care about casualties, and that\u2019s the way it\u2019s always been for them. So there is a theory that says they can do this indefinitely.<\/p>\n   <p>I don\u2019t think so.<\/p>\n   <p>I don\u2019t know where that tipping point is, but at some place \u2014 both physically and psychologically \u2014 Ukraine is killing more Russians than Russia is able to take into the armed forces. So it\u2019s not an endless amount of manpower. That\u2019s why they\u2019re using North Koreans, immigrants, everybody they can find.<\/p>\n   <p>I don\u2019t think they have really recruited too heavily from Moscow or St. Petersburg yet. If they become very desperate, then we may see a broader mobilization.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>But based on the last few months, and some battlefield adaptations that the Ukrainian side has made, I think it is feasible that Ukraine could kill more Russians than the Russians can bring in as replacements.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n   <p>And of course, having bodies does not equal having an effective force. They have to be trained, equipped, organized, etc. I don\u2019t know how effective that is at this point, but I imagine what\u2019s going on now on the ground is going to continue throughout the rest of this year and on into next year unless something significant happens externally.<\/p>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 Speaking of mobilization, do you think there is a chance of a new mobilization in Russia? Are there indicators?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 Of course there\u2019s a chance. I think the Kremlin has wanted to avoid this because it would be obvious that even after four years of large-scale invasion and twelve years since the original invasion, they have been unsuccessful. That would be difficult to explain.<\/p>\n   <p>And I think that even Putin has to be conscious of and respond to some public opinions and sentiment.<\/p>\n   <p>But at some point they\u2019ll have to make a judgment. As long as they are able to make enough money from the sale of oil and gas to China, India, and other customers, I think they will continue to do what they\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 The latest peace talks between the US, Ukraine, and Russia in Geneva unfortunately produced no meaningful results. Are negotiations now just strategic theater for domestic audiences? What does it look like to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 On the Russian side, it\u2019s just theater. I\u2019ve seen zero indication \u2014 as an outsider watching \u2014 that they are serious about getting to a just, sustainable peace that is acceptable to Ukraine. I have not seen any indicators that the Russians are prepared to back away from their demands that have been there from the beginning.<\/p>\n   <p>Now, of course, the Ukrainian negotiation team and Ukrainian leadership will have a better sense of this than I would. So I would trust their judgment. But I don\u2019t see any indicator that Russia is genuinely interested in getting to a peaceful conclusion, because they still think the US is not going to intervene in a meaningful way against Russia, and they are skeptical that Europe is prepared to do whatever is necessary to help Ukraine. So they\u2019ll continue this theater.<\/p>\n   <p>On the Ukrainian side, I can only guess. I can understand why there would be a desire to stay involved in hopes that the Trump administration will change its approach or at least continue to provide certain things. Although now, given the amount of weapons being used against Iran, I don\u2019t know how much \u2014 like Patriot, for example \u2014 is available for the US to sell to European allies to give to Ukraine. So that leverage, I don\u2019t know how significant it is.<\/p>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 Does a Middle East war weaken Western focus on Ukraine? And if so, how crucial is that for Ukraine?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 It certainly is going to divert some energy \u2014 intellectual energy, perhaps some intelligence capabilities \u2014 and, as we just discussed, perhaps fewer preferred munitions being available to sell to European allies to give to Ukraine.<\/p>\n   <p>On the other hand, this is demonstrating that Russia is unable to help another of their allies. They did nothing to help Armenia. They did nothing to help Syria. They\u2019ve done nothing now to help Iran. And I think it\u2019s because they are so stretched against Ukraine.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>In my view, it disproves the idea that Russian victory is inevitable. I\u2019m sure it\u2019s not inevitable, and most Ukrainians believe that as well.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n   <p>Other European countries are not convinced by the justification given by the Trump administration for why they attacked Iran. You don\u2019t see British, German, Polish, Italian, or others involved in the actual operations \u2014 except that the Iranians have hit Cyprus now, and I imagine that sites like Akrotiri and others could be struck if Iran were able to.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>So it&#8217;s not like there is no effect, but I don\u2019t see this as a significant distraction preventing Europe from doing what it was already doing for Ukraine.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 Several intelligence agencies predicted that Russia could invade Europe before the end of the decade. Yet Russia is heavily involved in the war against Ukraine and also stockpiling weaponry and expanding bases along NATO borders. What are the chances of Russia having a significant or even partially successful invasion of any European country?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 The best way to make sure Russia never attacks the rest of Europe is to make sure that Ukraine is successful against Russia.<\/p>\n   <p>Ukraine, as a European country, is on the front line, and Russia \u2014 after 12 years \u2014 still controls only 21% of Ukraine.<\/p>\n   <p>I think you cannot discount the possibility that Russia would seek to do something elsewhere to distract or disrupt Europe\u2019s support for Ukraine. These gray zone operations are intended to put pressure on governments by scaring populations.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>It seems unlikely that Russia could or would attack another European country while they are struggling against Ukraine. But I wouldn\u2019t rule it out.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n   <p>The most likely scenario would be one or two years after some kind of outcome in Ukraine \u2014 that\u2019s the earliest they might be prepared to do something.<\/p>\n   <p>And of course, an attack on Lithuania or Latvia or Estonia would be aimed at breaking NATO, not taking over Europe \u2014 to demonstrate that the alliance is unwilling to come to the aid of, say, Latvia if Russia attacked around Daugavpils.<\/p>\n   <p>These are the kinds of scenarios the alliance is preparing for.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>And I wouldn\u2019t rule it out. But most experts agree: <strong>helping Ukraine defeat Russia is the best investment for European security.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 If Europe doesn\u2019t dramatically expand defense production now, are we watching the slow collapse of deterrence? Does deterrence work at all today?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 If you don\u2019t have ammunition and capability, then you don\u2019t have deterrence. The theory of deterrence is based on capability that is demonstrated \u2014 and willpower to use that capability that is also demonstrated.<\/p>\n   <p>The Russians have to believe that the alliance has that capability and is prepared to use it.<\/p>\n   <p>The fact that so many people question whether the United States would actually respond is a problem, because that could lead to a terrible miscalculation by Russia.<\/p>\n   <p>I absolutely believe the United States would respond. It\u2019s in our own interest, not just a treaty obligation.<\/p>\n   <p>So deterrence does work \u2014 but only if you have demonstrated capability and will.<\/p>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 You warned that Moscow is already waging hybrid war against the West, and the most dangerous thing is that we cannot respond using conventional warfare. At what point does hybrid aggression legally become war? And do you see it happening anywhere in Europe?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 The whole purpose of what I call gray zone operations \u2014 some call it hybrid, but gray zone is more useful \u2014 is to achieve effects like scaring populations, disrupting communications and financial systems, disrupting or destroying critical infrastructure. And they are done in a gray area, meaning it is difficult to confirm who did it.<\/p>\n   <p>Anybody serious knows Russia is behind most of these things, but you don\u2019t see Russian soldiers or people waving Russian flags. They use criminals or proxies to create these effects.<\/p>\n   <p>Until Western countries figure out how to protect airspace, infrastructure, and populations in this kind of gray zone, the Russians will continue.<\/p>\n   <p>We have to figure out how to inflict consequences on Russia.<\/p>\n   <p>Governments have been reluctant because they treat these like criminal investigations \u2014 you gather evidence, determine guilt, then act. That will never work.<\/p>\n   <p>Instead, you should start seizing shadow fleet vessels, for example. Every time drones shut down an airport, there should be a consequence of some sort.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Shooting down drones over Copenhagen or Berlin or Munich airports won\u2019t solve the problem. There needs to be a more robust approach to determine origin and then inflict consequences.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n   <p>And the consequences might not be directly related to the specific act Russia carried out.<\/p>\n   <p>The Russians have to know that we know. That will take political courage \u2014 and leaders explaining to populations what is happening and what will be done to protect them.<\/p>\n   <p><strong>\u2014 Considering the growing cyber warfare of recent years and cases of hybrid warfare across Europe \u2014 would you say we are already in the early stages of World War III without admitting it?<\/strong><\/p>\n   <p>\u2014 You could say that, but I don\u2019t know if it helps strategic thinking. What I care about is not the label, but: What are we doing about it? What are our objectives? Our priorities? Our risks?<\/p>\n   <p>Politicians like categories \u2014 \u201cSecond Cold War,\u201d \u201cWorld War III,\u201d etc. If it helps explain things to populations, fine.<\/p>\n   <p>But I don\u2019t know that labeling it helps.<\/p>\n    <blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>This is why I\u2019ve tried to advocate for people accepting that Russia is at war with us \u2014 even if it\u2019s not Kinzhal missiles or Shahed drones flying into Rotterdam or Gda\u0144sk. They are using all their tools to disrupt and distract us.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n    <figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=WzA7sJLA4zk\n<\/div><\/figure>\n   <p><strong>Read also:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/uatv.ua\/en\/the-coalition-of-the-willing-must-enter-ukraine-now-there-is-no-time-for-hesitation-interview-with-kurt-volker\/\">\u201cThe coalition of the willing\u201d must enter Ukraine now \u2013 there is no time for hesitation, \u2013 Interview with Kurt Volker<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Are Russia&#8217;s resources truly limitless? 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